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Sterling and Woodgate's futurism, transcribed

Heath Row has posted his transcript of Bruce Sterling and Derek Woodgate’s conversation at SXSW, a funny, high-speed discussion of the future looming on the horizon.

Sterling: Let’s move onto Topic No. 4: Influence on industry. The thing that impressed me with the foamed aluminum wasn’t the thing itself but the amount of sensing. You almost need aluminum moussing. Just the right temperature. What happens when that crashes? What happens when it’s no longer under the control of experts? What if I can go down to Kinko’s and foam me some aluminum?

It’s the Linux model for physical objects. It’s a really intriguing organizational problem that our society has that no else seems to have. What happens to General Motors if people can build cars? What if you could just download the stats to build a Model T? That can’t be that hard. Henry Ford wasn’t that big a guy. What if you built one out of foamed aluminum and chopped bamboo? How much would it really cost? Maybe a couple of million dollars? A Model T cost $400 bucks new. And there was no one in particular making them.

It’s a Red Hat automobile. There’s no digital rights management. When it wore out you’d just make another. How would we fit that into the litigation structure? Who do you sue? What are we going to do when kids are making stuff — stuff — not drivers, but actual stuff? We have a major military problem over it. The terrorist spread of mass destruction is basically a Linux model for nuclear weapons. That’s why were going to take out Iraq. It used to be that only governments could afford weapons of mass destruction. Now small groups of networked activists can get their hands on the stuff.

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